PS3 vs 360

[English TomTom]

Hey I had a customer come into the store today, and he wasnt sure wether or not to buy the 360 or the PS3, of course I said to the xbox 360, so then we started talkin, he was askin questions about them, comparing them. So of course we started to talk about blu-ray games and DVD. I told him that the 360 can play the HD DVD,which is pretty much the same as Blu-Ray DVD. Hes like, but you gonna buy that seperate, and Im like yes..., he asked how much?, I said around $200, hes like oh, well the PS3 has Blu-ray player built right in. He asked does the 360 wireless controllers take batteries, I said yes, but you can also buy the play and charge kit, where its a battery pack, and you just insert it like you would with the batteries and you charge it usin the xbox 360, and hes like well, the PS3 controllers dont need batteries.I told him that a lot of the games, have downloadable content that will only be offered to the 360. He's like yeah, but you need to buy Xbox live. I said yeah but you can buy the gold membership for a year, and its around $50-$60.Hes like well the PS3 60gb has free Wi-Fi built in.So by the end of it, hes like yeah Im gonna buy a ps3

[Signothorn]

Many programmers hate the PS3 and say it's not yet cost effective to make games for it.

http://megagames.com/news/html/console/ps3shouldbewithdrawnsaysgabe.shtml


The PS3 could go the way of the Neo-Geo if Sony doesn't get it's act together.

[Javokis]

Here's what Nihilistic feels about the PS3:

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12058

[Old Fecker]

One things you mightve not told him about PS3 pads is that the batteries inside it are like the ones inside your watch...so once theyre dead, youre fucked! The pad cant be opened unless you take it apart or send it back to Sony!

Blu-Ray will go the way of Minidisc, UMD and Betamax (all Sony inventions - all lost out to either competitors (VHS) or didnt take off). I was reading somewhere the other day about home video formats and how the porn industry actually seems to set the standard. They apparently chose VHS over Betamax because it was cheaper...same with HD-DVD. Apparently, Blu-Ray costs a lot to manufacture compared to HD-DVD and the porn industry is choosing HD-DVD now. Besides, have you seen how much a Blu-Ray player costs!?!

That bloke who came into your shop obviously doesnt really want to play games. Look at all the 360 exclusives coming out. Midway have just announced a WWII game using the Unreal 3 engine that is 360 exclusive. Plus, it makes better financial sense for a company to release games on 360 and PC because its so simple to adapt the code to a 360. The PS3 is supposed to be a right bitch to program for.

I remember when the PS1 and Saturn came out. The Saturn died a slow death because it was a complete cunt to program.

The PS3s online capabilities are lame compared to the 360. And you dont have to pay for xbox live at all, you get a free silver membership as soon as you start the console! You can browse the marketplace, use voicechat, have a unified friends list over all games (unlike PS3s individual friends list for individual games), download content for free (or choose to buy points just like the PS3 and Wii). The only thing you cant do is play online games. £40 for an entire year sounds alright to me! Id rather pay one flat fee once than get charged for every game i want to play (which can happen due to Sonys online policy - its up to the developers). If you upgrade your membership through the 360 it costs £39.99...i got my registration card (the ones you can buy in shops) for £10 off ebay!! Besides, i know that Microsoft is running secure, reliable servers to host 360 games. The PS3 just seems to be up to the developer doesnt it? Where are their game servers? Are they Sony run or third party? Does anyone know the answer to that? I havent got a clue! 

The one biggie for me above all else though is the fact that Microsoft are a software company, not a hardware company like Sony. The 360 has already completely changed the way it works and the things it can do since launch due to software upgrades. People reckon the average lifecycle of a console is around 5 years, but Microsoft say the 360s lifespan could be anything up to 8 years! Alll due to the fact that its been built with upgradability in mind. When it first came out it could only display HD up to 1080i. A software upgrade a few months ago enabled 1080p which shut Sony up straight away as they were bitching saying it couldnt display 1080p under any circumstances. True, the PS3 has firmware upgrades (but if the PSP is anything to go by, i fucking HATE those firmware upgrades stopping me from doing stuff on it!) but MS has decades of experience in software...Sony dont.

Another thing i like is realtime voicechat in every single online game. The PS3 doesnt have that.

[EtaYorius]

360 all the way, and i TOTALLY agree with Signothorn... i remember how Dreamcast and Neogeo just died in the way with other consoles more affordable... i wont say Dreamcast was a crap of a console, because it ROCKED! it even had a modem to play online... too bad it was way to expensive and not many games to choose.

[English TomTom]

heheh I wonder if Sega would ever put out an other console. hahah remember Game Gear?

[EtaYorius]

Hell yeah i remember GameGear, it was some kind of 16 bit portatile console that attempted to beat GameBoy, though it was WAY COOLER than GameBoy, it was not able to beat the popularity of GB... but you had games comparable or better than Sega Genesis, you could even get some kind of add on that will enable Tv with few Aerial Channels, but you could put your Cable company in the add on... i miss my GameGear...

[Old Fecker]

It was good but the batteries didnt last long enough. It was an 8bit machine as well not 16bit  , just a Master System with a bigger colour palette.

I bet no-one remembers the Sega Nomad though...a portable Megadrive/Genesis. Not many of those around anymore. And even rarer than those is the Sega Neptune. It was a Megadrive & Megadrive 32X in one machine. And i know for a fact no-one will remember the Sega Multi-Mega which was a Megadrive and Mega-CD in one!

Oh, and no-one who wasn't British will even know of the existence of the Sega Teradrive which was a Megadrive and an Amstrad 386SX PC in one.

I know shit loads about Sega's history coz im Sega mad!!!

[EtaYorius]

Check this out:


http://www.screwattack.com/Flash%20HTML/ANN/WiiSalute.html

[El Gostro]

Actuallys the sega beduin was me pre puberty unrealized dreamie 

[El Gostro]

It be the angry nintendo nerd!!!
ME hero!

[Old Fecker]

Hehe, that vid was funny but it kinda pissed me off as well. The thing i hate about well, mostly everything is the bastardisation America does to things (no offence here yankiees!). Sega of America basically finished off Sega as a hardware manufacturer. Firstly, because of copyright issues the Mega Drive was renamed Genesis (so everywhere in the world bar North America and probably Canada it was called Mega Drive) - so because until prior to 9/11 the world outside of America didnt exist the Mega Drive is widely referred to as the Genesis which pisses me off!

Sega of Japan worked on the Mega-CD add-on but when it was released SoA decided to rename that as well! So the Mega-CD is now widely called the Sega-CD, even though it was only called that in N.America (and probably Canada). Anyway, the Mega-CD was dogshit, everyone knows that!

SoJ commisioned work on a 32bit cartridge based system in January 94 codenamed Project Jupiter (which later turned into the Saturn) which was to be in stores for Christmas 94. Some SoJ engineers went over to the US to talk about this system but some twat from SoA thought they were in charge of Sega, had a little hissy fit and said they wanted to make an add-on for the Mega Drive as people "wouldnt pay for a new system" - So the Genesis/Mega Drive/Super 32X was born.

The 32X was released in Novemeber 1994 in North America at the same time SoJ released the Saturn in Japan. The 32X cost $170  and was a complete shit of a system. All the games that were available were dogshit. Doom is a classic example of the almighty fuck up that Sega of America conjured up as half the bloody levels were missing as it was rushed so it could ship on launch day! Add to that manufacturing problems, short supply and numerous game-breaking bugs in the games meant Sega's name = SHIT

By mid-95 when the Saturn was released worldwide and the Playstation reared its head, SoA realised what a cock up they had engineered. But, they still went ahead and desgined the Neptune and widely publicised it! SoJ got too pissed off with what was going on and put a stop to the system. Sega's name was a laughing stock. The Saturn being an arse to program for and not as powerful as the PS didnt help matters either. The Saturn failed miserably (but had some cracking games for it though - i loved my Saturn until it stopped working one day...then i got a Playstation!) and died a slow death.

SoJ tried to get back on track again with the Dreamcast which was a stonking machine (far better than the PS2, everyone said that) but because of the fuck up that SoA started Sega's name was dirt and the Dreamcast died as well. So ends the tale of Sega's demise as a hardware manufacturer. 

BUT! not only that pisses me off! Its the way America has bastardised the English language! You spell things wrong! We should know, it's called ENGLISH for a reason!!!

Prime words that are spelled wrong but are accepted throughout the internet on forum codes etc:
Color - it's fucking missing a U! Colour!
Check - WTF!? it's Cheque! I'm writing you a 'cheque' for (x) amount
Program - youre missing another M and an E!! Programme
Curb - it starts with a K FFS!!!!!! Kerb
Center - You have the last two letters the wrong way around!! Centre
Honor - Missing a U! Honour

I could go on and on and on! But the thing that gets my goat is the fact you call Football, 'Soccer'.....we invented the fucking game in around 1174! We know what its called!!! The world governing body of the sport is FIFA, which stands for Fédération Internationale de Football Association (why its in fucking French i have no idea!! I hate the French...)...nowhere does it say the word 'Soccer'!!! American Football is even a bastardisation of British Rugby (which split from the way football was played in around 1870) when American blokes decided they wanted to play it differently and set up the NCAA in 1905!

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!! Bloody telly programmes over here call it fucking Soccer now!!!!!



...............................anyway, rant over now. Ive gone completely off track!!! 

[El Gostro]

Ayes I remembers me first timey in the stateys

-"Big fan of football I be not but I do know most of the players"
-" You like theForty niners?"
-"Whas?"

[EtaYorius]

Im Mexican, and i hate American Shitball with a passion... geesh, they even call Football "Soccer" and they call American Shitball "Futball", gosh, wheres the FOOTBALL in american shitball? they just use a single KICK in the whole stupid brute mofo "Sport".
Anyway... fast how he change subject huh?

[English TomTom]

Yeah dude, on these forums, like every thread changes subject lol. First it was about PS3 and xbox 360, then to Sega, and now american football..