Hope some one knows alot about Shaitan

[English TomTom]

Alrighty, I'am really confused. Recently I've been reasearching about Saulot, and I read up some of his Progeny, I heard a story that One of his first progeny was Shaitan, and Shaitan built a city and all that stuff, but then I hear he was the progeny of Cappadocious((aka Ashur)), So I'm really confused lol. Then I read the Vampire the Masquerade Genealogy, And under Baali it says Shaitan, It said Progeny of Saulot, but as I read on it says his sire was Cappadocious, so wtf?lol,

[Bloodywolf]

they probably messed it up :-p

[Javokis]

Well I saw some information posted at planetvampire at this topic:

http://www.forumplanet.com/planetvampire/topic.asp?fid=2114&tid=1927749

Not sure if it'll shed some light for you.

[English TomTom]

Kinda, People are still saying the same things and are confused by the same thing. I read so many different storys on Saulot, and how he started Baali in some way shape or form, like killing a tribe of demon worshipers, or it started when Shaitan was visited by Baal himself.Yeah the Salubri clan is very hard to understand, and like why saulot waged war on his own clan, if you belive he did it by possesing Tremere, but even that, some sourcebooks say differnt things, like it was Comte de Saint Germaine((aka Red Death,Seker)), who possed tremere, and I read a story about him, it was crazy stuff, Its impressive as how deep these stories go, haha but it even says that Saint germaine was the progeny of Saulot. I thought the Genealogy book would help but it made things more confusing lol. Ah well

[Javokis]

When it comes to storytelling white-wolf material, I just take the source that fits me best and go with it.

Or just get the clanbook-salubri as a pdf download or if lucky as the real book in a comic store.

[English TomTom]

Yeah I think that would be the best chance of knowing, I have all the Clan books(in pdf)except for Cappadocians and Salubri, I'm tryin to find the Cappadocian clan book, there somethings I need to clear up lo, Like how Augustus Giovanni was actually manipulated my Lameth into Diablerzing Cappadocious. If anyone has it((in pdf)) and willing to send it my way, it would be greatly appreciate

[Slayden]

Did you read the entire Baali and Salubri thread? I answered where the Baali came from and related Shaitan's story.

For the books, keep an eye on this thread:
http://www.forumplanet.com/planetvampire/topic.asp?fid=2114&tid=1945962

[Javokis]

That's a great thread. 

[English TomTom]

I read the whole thread, but you talked about the Baali clan book and showed some crazy pictures, and then you said later you will give an overview of the salubri lol, People are still saying the stoires i've heard, but no one really knows. I'am not such a huge fan of Baali so its okay if I dont know, but one thing that bugs me is why Saulot started a war against his own clan?,if that theory is true or theres an other one about Comte de Saint Germaine possed tremere and started it,It just made me mad lol that different books say different things, but if you look at in a storyteller's prespective it makes sence

[English TomTom]

Thanks for the link to the books , I just need the Cappadocian and Salubri and im all set, I got lucky once and found 2.25 gigs of WOD books, lol 82 books,  So if anyone is lookin for a certain books chances are i might have it lol

[Slayden]

I have 164 out of the 173 Vampire books for Old WoD.

[English TomTom]

haha that puts my 82 to shame , hey quick question, did WoD ever put out actual novels?

[Slayden]

Yes. Several. Nights of Prophesy and Gehenna are two off the top of my head for Vampire. And the Rage Across series (Rage Across Russia, Rage Across Egypt, etc.) are several novels for Werewolf.

[English TomTom]

Awesome, Hey did you ever read the Red Death trilogy?, I read a bit about them, in the books it talks about Saulot getting diablerised by Tremere who was manipluated by Comte De Saint Germaine

[Slayden]

I WANT THOSE!!! Those books are non-canon according to White Wolf but it will still offer some insight into other areas of OWoD. Could you RAR them, upload it to MegaUpload and give me the links? Depending ont the size of the books, they should fit into one file less than 250 MB. 250 MB is the maximum size that any one file is alloted, but this may be repeated until all of it is uploaded. This is how entire games (some over 2 gigs) may be stored on their servers.